Will Gould from Creeper on what it means to be gothic – Kerrang!
“I think I’ve always thought differently, always felt differently and never really integrated into it when I was in school or anywhere else. But I think finding a gothic subculture is so important for young people, I think like mosher music in general, apart from just the ‘Gothic Lane ‘, finding something that you really feel like you’ve been in, especially when you don’t fit in anywhere else, is such an amazing thing for a young person to do. I think it’s really, really healthy. I think it teaches a lot about the world and how we treat others. It’s funny is not it? Because Andrew Eldritch of The Sisters Of Mercy is supposed to be the grandfather of goth, and he completely hated the term – but I think it’s something to be proud of.
“I think it starts with an aesthetic choice, when you’re younger, and it kind of goes with the music and the things that you like. But as over time it has become a real lifestyle for me and [my girlfriend] Charlotte, like going to different club nights, and somehow existing outside of the norm. Funny, because when you have a job as you get older you always have this guy who is like, ‘So are you a gothic? What are you doing? Do you drink blood? It’s always very funny to me. But now, all these years after going to school, I still paint my nails and do my makeup whenever I go anywhere, I’m still very involved in this subculture. I guess it really wasn’t a phase. I guess my mom was wrong.
“I thought about the Lil Nas X video recently [MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name)] was great. Even though it’s hip-hop, there are goth themes creeping into it. And that pissed off so many people. We’re living in the middle of a pandemic, and it’s so funny that with everything else, people have been so offended by it. I love it! He twerks the devil. It’s the ultimate gothic thing!
“It’s so strange that fundamentalist religious groups are going so crazy about this kind of shit. I remember when we did that. Creeper has this strange and ongoing feud with the Westboro Baptist Church for some time. Back in 2017 we were on the Warped Tour, and we were protested by the Westboro Baptist Church. They were running the festivals, so we took it over, along with a bunch of other punk bands. Anyway, we had this very heated exchange with them on the internet, and they tweeted that we are, “100% Satanic – all they have is death. So we just had to print it on a T-shirt. They are protesting us, but that literally plays into our whole schtick anyway! I’m going to go on too, we’re going to get the paper to me and we don’t get another message from Westboro Baptist Church, of course.
“I think it’s always going to be there. It is a very big part of people’s lives. You think of Dave Vanian from The Damned – that was the first goth-punk band, I guess. He opened the door to a lot of people. I think it also helps people express themselves often. Or, for example, being confused about your gender and what you like when you feel attracted to a man with makeup – you’re comfortable exploring that aspect of yourself, and the culture allows that as well. I think it’s about knowing where you fit in the world and being comfortable with yourself.
Posted on May 21, 2021, 5:00 p.m.